[Hardware] MSI OCLab Reveals Ryzen 9000X3D 11-13% Faster Than 7000X3D, AMD Set to Dominate "Arrow Lake" in Gaming

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MSI OCLab made some groundbreaking disclosures about the gaming performance of upcoming AMD Ryzen 9000X3D processors. It looks like AMD is set to dominate the Intel Core Ultra 2-series "Arrow Lake-S" desktop processors in gaming performance, if these numbers hold up. In the games that MSI tested, namely "Far Cry 6," "Shadow of the Tomb Raider," and "Black Myth: Wukong," the "8-core 9000X3D" processor, or the Ryzen 7 9800X3D, is found to be 11% faster on average than the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. The "16-core 9000X3D" processor, which is expected to be the Ryzen 9 9950X3D, is an impressive 13% faster than its predecessor, the Ryzen 9 7950X3D.

Normally we'd expect bigger gen-on-gen gains for the 8-core part than the 16-core part, but the 16-core 9000X3D pulling ahead by that much over its predecessor hints at the possibility of AMD either giving it significantly higher clock speeds, or the rumor about AMD deploying both 3D V-cache on both its CCDs could be true after all. The 9950X3D could end up roughly on-par with the 9800X3D if this turns out to be true, given that the gaming performance delta between the 7800X3D and 7950X3D is roughly that much—2-3 percentage points. Intel earlier this week officially announced the Core Ultra 2-series desktop processors. As part of the announcement, the company put out some first-party gaming performance numbers, which put the top Core Ultra 9 285K either on-par with the Core i9-14900K, or faster by 2-3%, which means it should land behind even the 7950X3D in gaming performance, and AMD is set to dominate Intel in gaming performance with the 9000X3D series.

 

 

 

 

Check out the other slides in HardwareLuxx's image gallery. They also include comparisons between Core Ultra 200K CPUs and Ryzen 9000s. 😛

That said, AMD will basically have to slash prices for the lower non-X3D parts, unless they got the balls to release the 9800X3D for $550+.

edit: looks like they removed the slides now 😞

Posted on Oct 12th 2024, 3:30

#2

phints

 

SarajielCheck out the other slides in HardwareLuxx's image gallery. They also include comparisons between Core Ultra 200K CPUs and Ryzen 9000s. 😛

That said, AMD will basically have to slash prices for the lower non-X3D parts, unless they got the balls to release the 9800X3D for $550+.

$550 huh? 9700X is already $330. But 9800X3D is so performant it'll likely come out at $420-450.

Posted on Oct 12th 2024, 3:58

#3

Sarajiel

 

phintsBut 9800X3D is so performant it'll likely come out at $420-450.

That's cheaper than the 7800X3D price in many regions... That's not going to happen. AMD loves increasing prices if they don't have competition, like they did with the 5000 and 7000 series Threadrippers.

Posted on Oct 12th 2024, 4:03

#4

RogueSix

 

In the games that MSI tested, namely "Far Cry 6," "Shadow of the Tomb Raider," and "Black Myth: Wukong," the "8-core 9000X3D" processor, or the Ryzen 7 9800X3D, is found to be 11% faster on average than the Ryzen 7 7800X3D.

Looks like TPU fell for WCCFTech's clickbait 😄 .

There is only a single game in the three games that were shown on the slides that reached 11% to 13% and that is Far Cry 6. There is no "11% faster on average" here. Far from it. The other two games (Wukong and SotTR) only performed 2% to 4% better which is, quite frankly, pathetic. This makes it an average of 5.6% as WCCFTechpointed out themselves:

That's an average gaming performance increase of 5.6% which is once again going to be better on the final chips.

Far Cry 6 is the outlier because it reacts pretty well to faster clocks. We will likely see a lot more increases in the 2% to 4% range (or maybe 4% to 6% on final silicon) because Far Cry 6 is NOT the norm.

If this turns out to be true, it would make the 9800X3D about as equally disappointing as the regular Zens in a gen vs. gen comparison. We are mostly looking at single digit average performance gains here.

On the pro side: This should hopefully bring the prices of the 7800X3D back in line and 9800X3D also should not sell for a new kidney. I hope AMD will have decent stock available at launch. Otherwise, we will probably have to wait quite a bit longer for that much needed price slide to happen.

Posted on Oct 12th 2024, 5:14

#5

Melvis

 

AMD set to dominate at gaming? hmmmmm pretty sure that has been a thing for the past what? 2yrs now?

Posted on Oct 12th 2024, 5:38

#6

JohH

 

Dominate? Won't it be within like 10%?
Not a big deal...

Posted on Oct 12th 2024, 6:11

#7

cerulliber

 

SarajielCheck out the other slides in HardwareLuxx's image gallery. They also include comparisons between Core Ultra 200K CPUs and Ryzen 9000s. 😛

That said, AMD will basically have to slash prices for the lower non-X3D parts, unless they got the balls to release the 9800X3D for $550+.

https://www.techpowerup.com/327613/msi-oclab-reveals-ryzen-9000x3d-11-13-faster-than-7000x3d-amd-set-to-dominate-arrow-lake-in-gaming