BirSaNN Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 AMD's AM5 platform has had its head start with a trio of Ryzen 7000 CPU families based on the Zen 4 core architecture but looking forward, we want to know what else the red team has in plans for its AM5 platform, especially the APU side of things. AMD's AM5 APU Strategy Might Include Two Ryzen Product Lineups: 6nm Rembrandt & 4nm Phoenix The last AMD Ryzen APUs for the desktop segment were launched all the way back in the summer of 2021. These were the Ryzen 5000G series products based on the Zen 3 core architecture along with the Vega graphics core. Since then, AMD has introduced its Ryzen 6000 and Ryzen 7000 APUs for laptops which feature up to Zen 4 core architecture and the brand new RDNA 3 graphics arch. RELATED STORY Hassan Mujtaba ASUS Preps 192 GB DDR5 Memory Support For Its AMD AM5 Motherboards So while the company has released many Ryzen CPU options for its AM4 and AM5 platforms during the 2021-2023 timeframe, the AMD desktop APU lineup seems to be put on hold. But we can make sense of what's going on and why this is the way it is right now. Back when AM4 was introduced, it was first released in the OEM segment and the first lineup to utilize it was the Bristol Ridge family. The AMD Bristol Ridge family didn't utilize the brand-new Zen cores but instead relied on the older Excavator cores (a revision of the Bulldozer cores). These APUs did support the newer DDR4 DRAM standard which was new at the time for the AMD AM4 platform & it was some time before we got to see the proper Zen-based Ryzen APU options in the market. Now based on information within the Gigabyte leak from a few years back (discovered by HXL), it looks like AMD may follow a similar strategy for its AM5 Desktop APU lineup. Within the feature compatibility table, three families of AMD's AM5 processors are listed. We know that the Family 19H (Model 60h-6Fh) is the Ryzen 7000 "Raphael" lineup which has received the X, Non-X & X3D treatment so far. Besides that, there are two additional families which we have yet to see & these are the Family 19h (Model 40h-4fh) and the Family 19h (Model 70h-7Fh). The A40F4H is possibly the AMD Rembrandt (Zen 3+ & RDNA 2) family whereas the A70F71 is the AMD Phoenix (Zen 4 + RDNA 3) family. We know that AMD fabricated its Rembrandt or Ryzen 6000 APU family using the 6nm process node while the Phoenix Ryzen 7000 APUs were fabricated on the 4nm process node. Based on the information available through the chart, the AMD APUs for AM5 have 20 PCIe lanes (likely only Gen 4) and support USB 4 plus several USB 3.2 connections. If AMD was to launch APUs for the AM5 platform, then I guess they would most likely start with the entry-level Rembrandt parts under the Ryzen 3 and Ryzen 5 7000G family while moving on to high-end Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 APUs with Phoenix. Or the company might just launch Rembrandt APUs this year followed by Phoenix next year since the desktop APUs are always either several quarters or years away from the laptop APU lineup. Considering that Rembrandt has been out for over a year, the latter makes sense. With DDR5 prices coming down and the AM5 platform prices also getting close to where it should've been in the start, now makes more sense to have some APU options available to the masses. The main obstacle on the part of APUs has been how AMD has marketed them. Almost all recent Desktop APU launches such as the Renoir Ryzen 4000G and the Cezanne Ryzen 5000G parts have been OEM first with a DIY launch either never taking place or happening months after the initial introduction. While the prices for these chips are decent and make for interesting budget builds, keeping them exclusive for the OEM segment has the same effect as what's been going on with the Ryzen Threadripper Pro family for two generations now. AMD APU Forecasted Roadmap 2016-2023 APU SEGMENT FAMILY CODENAME FAMILY BRANDING PROCESS NODE CPU ARCHITECTURE GPU ARCHITECTURE MAX CORES / THREADS TDP LAUNCH YEAR Desktop (AM5) Phoenix Ryzen 7000G 4nm Zen 4 Navi (RDNA 3) 8/16 35-65W 2023-2024? Desktop (AM5?) Rembrandt Ryzen 6000G 6nm Zen 3+ Navi (RDNA 2) 8/16 35-65W 2023-2024? Desktop (AM4) Cezanne Ryzen 5000G 7nm Zen 3 Vega (4th Gen) 8/16 35-65W 2021 Desktop (AM4) Renoir Ryzen 4000G 7nm Zen 2 (Vega 3rd Gen) 8/16 35-65W 2020 Desktop (AM4) Picasso Ryzen 3000G 12nm Zen+ Vega (2nd Gen) 4/8 35-65W 2019 Desktop (AM4) Raven Ridge Ryzen 2000G 14nm Zen Vega (1st Gen) 4/8 35-65W 2018 Desktop (AM4) Bristol Ridge A10-9000 28nm Excacvator+ GCN 3.0 2/4 35-65W 2016 link: https://wccftech.com/the-future-of-amd-ryzen-apu-the-am5-platform-6nm-rembrandt-4nm-phoenix-imminent/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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